it's a big chunk of the republican conference. how big? we don't know yet. but he is the pit bull on those issues and is not going to back down. that puts boehner in here as sort of the good cop. it's clear that john boehner, speaker boehner, thinks you have to do something to increase the debt limit or it could be politically and economically catastrophic for the party. i don't think eric cantor necessarily shares that world view. >> we will be hearing from tim geithner, who is meeting with the democratic senate side today, the caucus lunch. he's going to come out and give the latest on the dire predictions of what is going to happen if they don't get something done in the next 19 days. >> right. he's going to talk about the effect it would have on the economy, on debt, on social security checks and whether they could go out to recipients. i have talked to enough house republicans about it. they don't buy it. they don't believe in these warnings about catastrophic consequences. they think that you can find the money to be able to fund things while a deal is